How Delta screwed me…again, and again, and again…..

By reeset / On / In Travel

I just got back home from without a doubt the most horrendous travel experience I’ve ever had dealing with an airline.  And to be honest, it wasn’t until this weekend that I never really realized how little help travelers have when something goes wrong.  For me, my story started back in January of this year.  Oregon State University and Penn State University had agreed to play one game at Beaver Stadium in Happy Valley.  I’ve always wanted to attend a game in a Big 10 stadium — to be in a crowd of some 100,000+ fans, so my friend and I got tickets to the game and immediately started making plans. 

I was pretty much responsible for making our arrangements — partly because I fly more and have status on the two primary airlines that fly into State College, Delta and United.  I probably fly close to 20 times a year, so I do a fair amount of travel on each one of these airlines and have never had any trouble with either of these companies.  So, I had no problem booking a flight on Delta in January for travel between Portland and State College.  My original itinerary had my flying from PDX to Cincinnati and then to State College which sounded great.  However, the problems started in June.  While I was at ALA, Delta called to inform me that their regional carrier into State College no longer would be serving that area — so they would need to rebook my flights.  Fine — so long as they could be me to State College around the same times, I was happy — and after talking to the ticketing agent, they were able to accommodate me.  At that point, I had confirmed flights on Delta a flight that would take me on Alaska Air and Northwest so at this point, I’m thinking that everything is taken care of.  I was wrong…so very, very, very wrong.

Sept.4th — travel day

My friend and I got up early Thursday morning excited that we were finally starting our trip to Penn State to see our mighty Beavers take down the Penn State Lions (oye, the game — that’s another painful story).  We got to PDX about 2 hours early and made our way to the Alaska ticket counter and entered our Delta confirmation number (the Delta ticketing agents had assured me numerous time over the past three weeks that this was all I’d need because I’d been calling them making sure everything was ok for our trip — I was just a little paranoid about traveling on so many partner airlines) — nothing.  So, we went to the ticketing agent — a wonderfully nice lady that pulled up our boarding passes and printed them out.  Just one problem — it said that a coupon from Delta was required.  Huh?  Apparently, when Delta rescheduled our flights, they didn’t let Alaska know what they were doing, I guess — so the nice lady spent close to an hour and a half with us working with Delta getting this resolved.  After a lot of back and forth, the Delta agent told her that our tickets had never been re-issued after the change — hence the problem.  They apologized for the mistake and said it was corrected.  The Alaska ticket agent was able to print out our boarding passes to Seattle and told us that we’d need to get boarding passed from Northwest at the gate.  Fine — we thanked the nice lady from Alaska, walked over to the Delta counter to get our confirmed itinerary from him (which we had and still have) and then went to quickly catch our flight to Seattle.  Again, happy that we’d arrived early and was able to get this issue fixed. 

So, we caught the flight from PDX to Seattle, arrived at the Northwest gate for the next leg of our flight and walked up to the gate agent.  Now, I don’t know what the life of a gate agent must be, because I don’t think I met a single one that was helpful throughout this trip.  Maybe it’s because they are so busy trying to get people through the doors of the planes — I’m not sure, but the Northwest gate agent in Seattle, Mandi, basically looked at our itinerary and said that it was a Delta ticket — we weren’t getting on the plane.  Huh?  We asked for a little explanation.  Apparently, within the Northwest system, there were two Delta tickets reserved for the flight.  These tickets were controlled by Delta for Delta passengers (like ourselves), but Delta never issued the tickets to Northwest.  So, while I quickly called the Delta custom support to get this worked out, Northwest promptly gave away our seats because the plane was over booked anyway.  After watching our flight fly away, stranding us in Seattle, a Northwest agent spent a little time with us to explain that it appeared that Delta never released any information to Northwest about us — and that we would need to go talk to someone at Delta to get this fixed.  At this point, I’m mad.  I also know at this point, we won’t be flying to State College.  It’s a small airport and the flights are booked solid.  But we are also stranded in Seattle.  Soooo, we leave the security area and go to the ticket counters at SeaTac to talk directly with a Delta ticketing agent.  This was around 11:30 am. 

We are able to quickly talk to a Delta ticketing agent.  Now, for as unhelpful as every gate agent was, the ticketing agents, both Delta and Northwest (yes, we talked too many) really tried to make this work for us.  What seemed to be the biggest impediment was the policies that each airline follows.  For airlines that are suppose to be merging, getting each airline to talk to the other was next to impossible.  Anyway, we talk to the Delta ticketing agent.  She punches up our ticket confirmation number and says everything looks great.  Well, if everything was great, I certainly would have been standing there talking to her.  So, I explained what had happened and we asked what she could to for us.  Well, she started looking for flights into State College and was able to offer us a flight the day after the football game.  Obviously, that wasn’t going to work for me.  So, we asked how close she could get use to State College — at which point she told us that it was Delta policy to charge for changes in flight destinations.  At which point, my friend called BS — these are tickets that we have had since Jan. 2008 and if Delta couldn’t get us to our destination, they at least had an obligation to get us as close as possible to our destination.  She started looking — the closest Delta could get us was Pittsburg, but to get there, we would have to take a red eye flight from Seattle at 10:40 pm into Atlanta and then fly from Atlanta to Pittsburg, where we would arrive around 9:30 am on Sept. 5th.  Fine — if that’s the best they could do, we’d take it.  At the same time, we asked the agent if she could confirm that our tickets home, tickets issued by Delta to fly on Northwest, were confirmed and ok.  She checked and said we were good to go.  Great — so we left the Delta counter and walked over to Northwest to confirm that indeed, when we got to State College, that indeed, we’d have a ticket back.  It was now 1 pm.

At the Northwest ticketing gate, we found the nicest lady.  We explained our plight and she agreed that it would best to make sure everything was good prior to making the trip to Pennsylvania.  Plus, we had almost 10 more hours at SeaTac before our new flight to Atlanta, so we certainly had the time now to make sure that this was all taken care of.  The gate agent started looking up our information.  Nothing.  Just like at the Northwest gate, the clowns at Delta had neglected to issue us a ticket through Northwest.  On the Delta end, everything looked peachy — unfortunately, we didn’t have any records in the Northwest system.  At this point, the nice lady could tell that we were frustrated and tired.  So she told us to go sit in the lobby and she would talk to Delta and try to get this straightened out.  A miracle — I thought.  Because when we were at the Northwest gate, I asked the Delta support to talk to the Northwest gate agent and got some asinine excuse that they don’t talk to anyone but customers.  Thanks for the help.  So, the Northwest agent disappears into the back for about an hour, and when she comes out, she’s not looking happy.  Delta apparently gave her the run around as well.  Her advice to us — call Delta support and ask to speak directly to a supervisor.  So, back we went to the Delta ticket counter.  My friend called Delta and asked for supervisor and I got in line.  My friend got Delta on the line first and got on the phone with a supervisor.  He explained the situation and the supervisor called Delta’s representative at Northwest.  Fifteen minutes later, the supervisor comes back on the phone and tells us that he’s identified the problem.  Apparently, indeed, Delta screwed the pooch and now, they can get us one seat on the flight from State College to PDX, but not a second — but that he would see what he could work out.  More silence.  Another fifteen minutes pass and the supervisor gets back on the line to tell us that we have confirmed seats, gives us a Northwest confirmation number, and tells us that the flight from State College is 20% overbooked, so arrive early.  We thanked him and then walked right back to Northwest.  This time, armed with a Northwest confirmation number, they found our itinerary and printed us out Northwest flight information — with seat numbers and everything.  This was around 4 pm. when we finally wrapped this up. 

With our new flights and Northwest itineraries in hand, we had to now make sure that the hotel in Altoona would hold our rooms (since we weren’t going to be checking in on the 4th) and make a reservation for a rental car from Pittsburg to State College.  The hotel was easy — they said we’d have to pay for the night we were going to miss, but that they’d certainly hold our room.  That was $108 down the drain.  Thank you Delta.  Then we called Alamo to change our reservation.  Our local rental for 3 days was going to cost about $120.  Now, since it was a one-way from Pittsburg to State College, the reservation would cost close to $400.  So, that’s another $280 down the drain.  Thank you Delta.  And my friend, who use to live in Pennsylvania and planned to visit his 90 year old grandma that Friday, had to call her and tell her that we wouldn’t be able to drive to see her because we were going to have to be driving from Pittsburg to State College airport (because my bags had no trouble making the trip) to pick up my luggage and then down to Altoona where we were staying.  Thank you Delta. 

Sept 5th

The flights from Seattle to Atlanta and Atlanta to Pittsburg went without a hitch.  However, we were tired.  I can sleep on a plane, but it’s not a restful sleep so by the time we reached Pittsburg, we were already tired.  However, what could we do?  We had to get to Altoona because the game was the next day.  So we went down to the Alamo rental desk and chatted with a nice guy.  He felt for us and ended up suggesting that we rent the one way from Pittsburg to State College for one day, then make a second reservation and rent a car at the State College airport locally for two.  When we did the math, we saved a little more than $50 bucks, so that’s the route that we took.  And off we went to State College.  Five hours on the road, up I-60 to I-80 to State College.  I swear, every road in Pennsylvania must be under construction right now because the drive took forever.  But we got to the airport, got my bags, got an upgraded rental and were finally set to watch the big game.  So after putting our Beaver flags on the car, we drove to Altoona and finally got a chance to get some sleep.

Sept. 6th

I’m not going to say much about the game because I’m selectively blocked those memories — but I will say that I left Penn State with two impressions.  First, the fans there are fantastic.  I’ve never felt more welcome as a visiting fan.  When we got there, everyone offered to let us tailgate with them, everyone was telling us how impressed they were with how well OSU fans traveled and everyone was thanking us for making the trip.  The stadium is impressive.  The attendance for the game was over 108,000 — and the student support was impressive.  When we went into the stadium, the 5000 orange shirts supporting our OSU Beavers was impressive.  Then, Penn State kicked off the ball and went about kicking our butts.  The final score was 45-14 — but it easily could have been 60+-14 had they wanted to run up the score.  I’ll admit, that was a very impressive Penn State team that I saw — and I wish them the best of luck the rest of the season. 

Sept. 7th

2:30 am — we’re up.  Remember, the Delta agent told us that our flight home was overbooked and we wanted to make sure that we go there in time to ensure that we claimed our seat.  Who knew how important it would be that we showed up so early.  At 4:30 am, we were first in line and tried to check in.  The machine found our confirmation number.  Great.  Knows who we are.  Great.  Then the machine tells us that we need to speak to the gate agent.  Uh, oh.  We talk to the gate agent and he pulled out the passenger list.  There we were.  So, he started typing on his computer and uh, oh — Delta still hasn’t done something.  Basically, he can see our reservation, see our Delta ticket, but something that needs to be linked between the two systems isn’t.  At which point, he tells us that we aren’t getting on the plane.  It’s over booked and unless we can get someone from Delta to fix it, we won’t be leaving State College till Monday (if at all — meaning that we may have to drive back to Pittsburg).  My friend calls Delta, talks to a supervisor and I kid you not, the supervisor tells him that it’s fine on their end, that they don’t feel that there is anything more that they can do so good luck.  I called Northwest and Thank God I did.  I got a nice Northwest agent on the phone, gave them my confirmation number and explained the situation.  She said she’d look into it and put me on hold.  5 AM — I’m getting nervous because the flight boards at 5:30 am.  Finally, she comes back and tells me that she has no idea what Delta has done to us — but that she can see that we have valid tickets so she has issued us two Northwest tickets.  I went back to the gate and asked the gentleman to look up our reservations again and he was really surprised because our reservations were completely different.  Now, they were Northwest tickets, with Northwest ticket numbers.  Finally, everything was OK.  I checked my bag, got our boarding passes for State College and our connecting flight into PDX and got out of there.  I don’t know what that Northwest customer service agent did for us — but I am really grateful to her and her willingness to fix this problem for us because Delta pretty much had been sitting on their thumbs for the past three days jerking us around.

And so now I’m home.  But I’ve learned a few things.  First, if ever I have a schedule changed like I did for this flight — I’m going to contact all airlines involved and ensure that all tickets have been reissued between the various airlines and get ticket and confirmation numbers for each airline.  You wouldn’t think you’d need to, but apparently this is the traveler’s responsibility because no one at Delta was doing this for us.  Second, I’ve learned that when you have a problem, ask to talk to the supervisor.  They were the only ones that seemed to be able to talk to another airline’s representatives.  No idea why — but that’s just how it seemed to work.  And finally, that if you buy tickets and something goes wrong — be ready to fix it yourself because the people at the airline may want to help you, but in reality — they probably can’t.  Oh, and one more thing.  I won’t be flying Delta again — at least not by choice.  At least, that’s how I feel right now.  I’ll be writing them a letter to let them know how unsatisfying this experience was — I don’t expect anything to come out of it.  I just can not believe how unhelpful this company was — and how many times they failed to make things right. 

–TR

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5 thoughts on “How Delta screwed me…again, and again, and again…..

  1. Yeah, Delta’s a real winner. Three weeks ago my family and I flew from Ithaca (well, Rochester, actually) to Seattle. To get the itinerary I wanted, we were flying on Delta on the way out, and on United on the way back. I found this ticket via Kayak.com on Orbitz. In the past, I’ve been wary about buying on Orbitz because I’ve been burned in trying to change tickets that I’d bought there. Should have listened to myself.

    My son got chicken pox (so the doctors said; another long story), and I felt a moral obligation not to put the rest of the plane at risk. I tried to change the ticket, and this is where everything hit the fan.

    United said that Delta controlled the ticket, since we flew on Delta first. Delta said that we’d only be able to change it from a United ticket to a Delta ticket, and they wouldn’t be able to waive the $150 change fees (per ticket, I believe) because that was a United policy, not a Delta policy, and it was United’s ticket. Remember, I wanted to change the ticket to not put others at risk, not because I didn’t want to leave Seattle (believe me, I did).

    I included Orbitz in this because they were the ones who sold me the ticket, and I was (and still am) trying to figure out what they bring to the equation. They were no help at all, and couldn’t change anything. The agent tried to explain to me that I’d find better fares at Orbitz — which is BS; the best fares are on the arlines’ websites, to say nothing of Orbitz’s additional fees — in the end, I truly do not understand why Orbitz and its ilk (Expedia, Travelocity) are still in business, especially when Kayak.com provides better searching options.

    United wouldn’t do anything; they said that Delta would get 75% of the change fee and United would get 25% so they couldn’t waive it — in fact, the supervisor said he couldn’t do it *even if he wanted to*, implying that he wasn’t convinced it was even worth waiving.

    In the end we had to change to a Delta flight, at the cost of $220 per person. (Someone, somewhere, did waive the change fees in the end.) It was a real mess. We flew back through JFK, then to Rochester, so my wife and son got off at JFK and stayed with her parents, then I went on to Rochester, drove 90 minutes home, slept for six hours, then drove 5 hours back to the in-laws’ on Long Island, since we were all supposed to go to a wedding that next day.

    My lessons were: NEVER buy from Orbitz/Expedia/Travelocity. Only buy directly from the airline. Since one-way tickets are now closer to half of round-trips, we’d have been better off buying one-way tix on Delta, then one-way tix on United.

    Definitely go to the supervisor, though always know that the cards are so stacked against you, you don’t even know what kind of deck they’re using — standard poker, pinochle, or Uno?

    Just start by bending over; it makes everything else go a lot easier in the end.

    Finally, avoid US Air, too: my wife is flying on them right now, and was forced to check her carry-on bag at $15 per, for the FIRST BAG — not for the second, the FIRST BAG. Which she didn’t want to check anyway.

    Oh, and I never got the miles (at least, not yet) for my Delta flight. Urg.

    Finally, don’t worry, Terry – your Beavers have a guaranteed win when they head up to Seattle on October 18th…

  2. Flying Delta is not just a flight…. It’s an adventure. Same problems with me and they had changed my Iteineray 4 times. The “Partner” airline didn’t have a clue who I was. Thank God for the Partner airline Or I would have had to walk home. Been flying for years, Delta has no business being in business.

  3. I loved Delta…but Delta doesn’t love me…anymore at least. That whole bankruptcy thing last year felt like the in-flight movie – cheap. Now, what to do with 49,500 frequent flyer miles…is it even worth it? have you tried to book using them recently?

  4. I couldn’t help but laugh at your flying experience as I had a similiar experience on Delta down in the Carribean with some of their partner planes they “stuck” me on. Some how I never did resolve the issue. I had to “repay” for the ticket at the airport and was told they would reimburse me later for any double charges. Well now, herein lies the problem; Try finding a Delta office to reimburse you! I live in Murrieta, California and was told I had to drive into downtown Los Angeles to their office. After a two hour ride there I walked in the office and they had no record of the double purchase and told me I had to resolve it in their corporate office by using the mail. I wrote them and never heard back. I called and somehow could not get through to the “right” people. Needless to say I have not flown Delta again since that fateful trip.

  5. I recently had the most awful experience I have ever had with an airline. This situation is so ridiculous I would almost find it humorous if it hadn’t happened been me they screwed. Take my advice and never fly with Northwest Airlines!

    I booked a multiple destination flight from Columbus to San Antonio, San Antonio to Dallas, and then Dallas back to Columbus through Orbitz. Northwest Airlines issued my ticket. Three days before my flight from San Antonio to Dallas, I decided instead to drive to Dallas early and just catch my flight back to Columbus. I called Orbitz to see if I could get some money back for driving instead of flying one leg of the trip and was told I had to cancel that flight. So I agreed and after the flight was cancelled, I was then told that my flight from Dallas to Columbus had been cancelled as well.

    Evidently Northwest loves to collect extra fees for changing tickets. If you purchase a ticket that goes to multiple destinations, you not only can’t cancel any portion of the trip, you have to literally show up for every leg of trip or your entire trip is cancelled! Not only was I not allowed to cancel my flight from San Antonio to Dallas, they told me that if I didn’t show up for my flight in San Antonio, my flight to Columbus would be cancelled as well. How much would it cost me to drive one leg of the trip instead of flying….a minimum of $200, possibly more!

    I can’t believe the desperation of Northwest Airlines to try and make an extra buck by hiding fees in their Terms of Agreement! When I called their customer service, they were extremely rude and obnoxious. I was shocked! I would never have believed I would receive this kind of treatment from any business much less a big airline. Now I’m out hundreds of dollars by missing my flight from San Antonio and have to pay a minimum of $200 if I want to re-book my flight from Dallas to Columbus.

    People should be aware that Northwest might be cheap to fly, but they are hiding as many fees as they can in the small print of those online agreements you agree to when you click accept. I will never fly Northwest Airlines again and I hope many people will read this and avert disaster. Just pay a little extra and fly Southwest which is an honest company.

    The only consolation I have had throughout this awful experience is the knowledge that companies like Northwest, who are dishonest and corrupt, will always go out of business when they resort to this kind of dishonest behavior.

    In disgust,
    Jonathan Munson